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Default AP/Stat Tables for Battle Skills?!

Okay, I just noticed this, but each race has different AP requirements/stat gains from each of the battle skills. At least I think the AP requirements might be different. I can't tell xD. And then some races can't learn some skills etc.

How do we want to organize this? It seems like if you make a separate table for each race for each skill... that's a lot of tables and they're kinda big. Or you can add a separate stat/ap row for each race, but then the table gets kind of bloated. I know we have something like a "which race can learn what" on Category:Ranged_Skills, and I think that's definitely how we should do it for the melee/magic skills, but what about the different stat gains (and maybe different AP requirements)?
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You know, this is where I think javascript would come handy. Making a page with tabs that allow you to switch back and forth simply by clicking on them. Similar to collapsing text and stuff, but more larger. I don't know how to quite explain it, maybe if I find it link to an example. Also, don't know if it's possible with wiki code or HTML.

EDIT: Found a link
http://www.barelyfitz.com/projects/tabber/

I don't understand most of that though.
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Hurr, as much as I don't really like flasy JavaScript things, I think I'd have to agree with you, haha. Or just like some kind of tabs so that each race can have a separate table on top of one another and you can just tab between them or something.

Definitely isn't possible with raw wikicode/HTML. Blah.
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That's a pickle.

You know, the three races also have different quests, different starting points, different marriages, and then there's the whole elves vs. giants thing. I know...THREE BIG LINKS at the top of the main screen with elf human and giant...and a whole new wiki for each one! muhahaha

The force is strong with this one. Much work do I foresee...

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Yeah, that would've been a great improvement to this wiki indeed. Not quite sure if we can still make it happen or find a reason not to. It's kind of hard to make things neat when you're dealing with a game that has great details such as the one you mentioned about stat/ap differences with the races.

Oh gawd more pages! Lol. D:
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:snicker:

We ARE gonna have to figure it out at some point...so much is unknown and we aren't dealing with ALL the info, so it's hard to know how to approach it. I dunno we are going to be able to get it figured out until we get into the game and start seeing some hard data.

So far, looking around, I haven't seen a whooole lot of info on the races. A little here and there, but nothing like what I've heard the scope of it to be. For now, my suggestion is to keep it simple as we can so that it will be easy to change later. If there aren't enough differences in a given table to make a new one, maybe put a footnote or asterisk on that stat and list the diffs on the bottom?

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At the same time though, we really don't have to figure it out yet, because (hopefully Nexon will be Nexon) they'll probably take forever to release the other two races.

(And then no one plays Giants anyway so we don't need that section).

With the skills, we could always just do Ice Bolt_(Human) or whatever. Or put it into it's own namespace, ie Human:Ice Bolt. This is of course assuming that we decide to have separate articles for each race which is kind of annoying for people wanting to compare races and such T___T. Though I guess we'll have that nice "can learn" table CloseOne made on all the skill categories...

How do you guys feel about just ignoring the issue until it becomes and issue?

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(And then no one plays Giants anyway so we don't need that section).
Meh, why not? They're practically invisible anyway, almost can't find one even when you're looking ::snicker::
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How do you guys feel about just ignoring the issue until it becomes and issue?
Hey man, you brought it up <poke> Sounds good to me tho...too much work with too little info make too little sense
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Yeh, screw this. But don't hate on the Giants, lol.

Other than that, I still hope for javascript although Hark mentioned something about attacks or something to me previously. I just don't see why someone would attack us unless....we're a much better wiki.

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ALWAYS ASSUME PEOPLE ARE EVIL AND OUT TO GET YUO D:

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