Mabinogi Guru
MainMabiBlogForumsMabinogi WikiImage GalleryArcadeFlash Chat

Navbar Left Navbar Right

Mabinogi Guru Forums » Mabinogi » Questions and Help » Rank up Windmill or Smash?

Reply
Tcat Left
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Thead Left Old 08-22-2008, 11:35 PM   #1 (permalink) Thead Left
Dunbarton Regular
 
Notakun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 290
My Mood:
Gold: 3,771
Notakun is still learning the ropes
Default Rank up Windmill or Smash?

My plans to raise my other combat skills were interrupted due to the released skill caps. Know, Sadly, Windmill has been my top priority again. Mine is at Rank 9, Perfect trained and ready for 8. I'm lvl 28 and I'm planning to rebirth my character later on in the day. I have 19 AP( Add 3 for my Character's birthday to 16). I could level up and have the Ap for for the higher Windmill ranks, but I cannot find a decent area to train it at. Its way to difficult to train it while doing dungeons because I cannot kill "Boss" monsters so easily without focusing on the next one thats after me.

The only easy thing that comes to mind is Zombies, but I can't get there yet. I was planning on rasing my smash to Rank 9 so I could prepare myself for Generation, but G3 came to early for me and foiled it... crap.

I want Windmill ranked up, because it seems like the "Must have" skill, but Smash is easier to train, even though the Ap is more.
Notakun is online now   Reply With Quote
Thead Left Old 08-22-2008, 11:54 PM   #2 (permalink) Thead Left
Ciar Regular
 
Kawasan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 47
My Mood:
Gold: 1,445
Kawasan is still learning the ropes
Default

Windmill should be ranked first since it can get very difficult to rank if u rank other combat skills first. Plus, ranking windmill gives you str and will bonuses every time you rank it as opposed to smash which only gives you str at later ranks.
The only real easy place rank windmill is to kill zombies with windmill.
Since tomorrow is Saturday, you can try to find parties to bring you to Another World. I could help you in game if you play on the Mari server as well.
__________________
Playing on Mari server
IGN: Kawasan
Playing on any random Ch now
Add me if ya want
Kawasan is offline   Reply With Quote
Thead Left Old 08-22-2008, 11:57 PM   #3 (permalink) Thead Left
PROFESSOR AWESOME
 
kitaek27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,740
My Mood:
Gold: 34,254
kitaek27 is a glorious beacon of lightkitaek27 is a glorious beacon of lightkitaek27 is a glorious beacon of lightkitaek27 is a glorious beacon of lightkitaek27 is a glorious beacon of lightkitaek27 is a glorious beacon of lightkitaek27 is a glorious beacon of lightkitaek27 is a glorious beacon of lightkitaek27 is a glorious beacon of lightkitaek27 is a glorious beacon of lightkitaek27 is a glorious beacon of light
Send a message via AIM to kitaek27 Send a message via MSN to kitaek27
Default

The spinning lotus of combat, Windmill.
Its very tear droppingly beautiful to see 23 ratmans flying out in all circular directions at once with critical flashes appearing on every one of them.
kitaek27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Thead Left Old 08-23-2008, 12:23 AM   #4 (permalink) Thead Left
Dunbarton Regular
 
Notakun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 290
My Mood:
Gold: 3,771
Notakun is still learning the ropes
Default

But doesn't your power level decrease as you age? I heard about that but idk. My level will be back at 1 and all my skills are ranked F or novice, except for Smash(E) and Windmill(9).
Notakun is online now   Reply With Quote
Thead Left Old 08-23-2008, 05:46 AM   #5 (permalink) Thead Left
Hiker of Gairech
 
rzetlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 164
Gold: 2,798
rzetlin is still learning the ropes
Default

I find that smash and windmill is used in different situations.

Windmill is used as a survival tactic against over numbering powerful enemies because it loads much faster than Smash.

Smash is used when you have more than people with in a party against one enemy.
rzetlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Thead Left Old 08-23-2008, 06:07 AM   #6 (permalink) Thead Left
Anime Informer
 
Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,561
My Mood:
Gold: 25,913
Paul has a spectacular aura aboutPaul has a spectacular aura aboutPaul has a spectacular aura aboutPaul has a spectacular aura aboutPaul has a spectacular aura aboutPaul has a spectacular aura aboutPaul has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Notakun View Post
But doesn't your power level decrease as you age? I heard about that but idk. My level will be back at 1 and all my skills are ranked F or novice, except for Smash(E) and Windmill(9).
Thats probably because how much HP/MP/SP/Str/Dex/Int/Will/Luk you have affects your power level as well which you gain by leveling.

I would love to have Rank E smash right now because its a pain having to windmill zombies 450 times.... then even a lot more... though wouldnt matter since rank novice FB has 100 CP.. lol...

Anyways, both skills have they're benefits but Windmill is more useful in the end...

Windmill Pros
- AoE
- Use to counter
- Able to spam (On certain monsters)
- Stops Aggro (Such as, if you 1+Wm a Blue Grizzly and hit another blue grizzly, that other one will not aggro you for a time which really helps...)
- Break through Counter
- Invincibility (Can even stop Fireball from hitting you if your in the middle)
- Easy to Chain with combos and other skills
- Great Stat increase from ranking
- Can be used against on Defense (If Wm is R9+, Wm can be used on a enemy using Def and used again again before that it hits you, Non-PVP)
- Quite Short usage time

Cons
- -10% Hp per usage
- Super pain to rank up at R3+ (Psh.. 1500 Boss monsters for 45.00? Lol?)


Smash Pros
- Deals "too much" damage at R1 :3
- AoE's at Rank5+
- Directly break through Defense
- Some Stats at a certain Rank.
- Super Easy to rank, and i mean super easy... you could get it to R1 just doing Alby

Cons
- Quite easy to break (Normal Att > Smash, Wm > Smash, Counter > Smash, Range > Smash, etc..)
__________________

Ign: Paul / Level: 40(42X) / Server:Ruairi / Guild:Immortals / MyMain
My Anime List / Money Guide

Last edited by Paul : 08-23-2008 at 07:00 AM.
Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Thead Left Old 08-23-2008, 04:05 PM   #7 (permalink) Thead Left
Dunbarton Regular
 
Notakun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 290
My Mood:
Gold: 3,771
Notakun is still learning the ropes
Default

Quote:
I would love to have Rank E smash right now because its a pain having to windmill zombies 450 times.... then even a lot more... though wouldnt matter since rank novice FB has 100 CP.. lol...

I assume Zombies are for the players who have high power level. I assume I'm the lucky one, since I don't a=have any skills up. Since I am rebirthing today, my stats and age will decrease back, so I can easily level up for the Ap needed, and I can just kill wolves, since they will be "Boss" leveled. So I guess I have it easier, but It won't make it easier to kill OVER 8000(exaggeration) boss monsters.

I have enough for Rank 5 after I level up 20 times again and age up(just in time for school to start). I might leave it at Rank 5, BUUUUUUUT It seems like it has to be mastered, Rank 5 range isn't enough, we have to max that up!
Notakun is online now   Reply With Quote
Thead Left Old 08-23-2008, 04:15 PM   #8 (permalink) Thead Left
Wiki Squad
 
Bakuryu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,498
Gold: 9,018
Bakuryu is a jewel in the roughBakuryu is a jewel in the roughBakuryu is a jewel in the roughBakuryu is a jewel in the roughBakuryu is a jewel in the roughBakuryu is a jewel in the roughBakuryu is a jewel in the roughBakuryu is a jewel in the roughBakuryu is a jewel in the rough
Send a message via MSN to Bakuryu
Default

windmill requieres patience, i was killing zombies for 3-4 hours, killed 800 o.o", now i have to kill over 3000 awful and or strong mobs, which will be faster than zombies(faster has in they die faster, dunno how much it'll take >>)
__________________
Bakuryu~
Bakuryu is offline   Reply With Quote
Thead Left Old 08-23-2008, 06:11 PM   #9 (permalink) Thead Left
Dunbarton Regular
 
Notakun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 290
My Mood:
Gold: 3,771
Notakun is still learning the ropes
Default

I kill Black wolves. They die easy with my Rank E Smash and my critical. I need 20 more wolves to kill before Rank 7. I have 20 Ap so far. My goal is to get to level 20 normally, and kill 50 or 100 Boss monsters each day .

The age ups can help as well.

BUT, I AINT RANKING THAT TO "1"... DAMN. Rank 5 is all I am aiming for, no way I'm killing 2000-4000 black wolves and grey foxes. It would take a lot out of my time. Rank 5 seems like good range and 200% damage is pretty good I guess.
Notakun is online now   Reply With Quote
Bottom LeftBottom Right

Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios
Skin by CompletevB