[Notakun]

This question mostly involves G1 so...


I honestly don't want to do G1 because it is very long and I think its the most annoying. i still can't stand some of the dungeons and stuff; i don't even know how to do some of them and the whole "Another World" and that Goddess dungeon. I'm actually afraid to do it, because I keep thinking that I lack the strength. My plan was to Rank up my Windmill to 5, then work on Smash for a better attack to star the battle.

I really want to just skip the damn thing and skip to G2, then G3, but some people say that would just make those two harder.

I might have the combat for some of them, but I'm really afraid of...

*Ciar Basic: i don't know how to kill a Golem with that much health. I high doubt Magic counter would kill him. I can never see the Golem because of its height and it seems unpredicatable to me. i also don't know if it will take me to normal ciar or some Ciar Evil basic dungeon or whatever, I really dont know.

*Collecting the Black Orb(s): Just reading about it scares me. i dont know how to fight some of the monsters and the bosses seems liek they're impossible to handle(Gargoyles and Black Golems, how can I kill them, especially the golem).

Some other quest I can deal with, but it still seems like its difficult. i doubt i won't get much help, because everyone is focused on G3 and I have no actual friends or Guild at all, so, I have nobody to help me out and beating all this might make me poor because I have to buy passes and preparations and all that needed stuff.


If I skip G1, then I'll feel like a quitter and G2 may seem harder even though it doesn't have all that crap from the previous generation.

I'm very nervous and I'm all alone doing this. This is my first actual character in the game and I don't want to make any mistakes. I'm also not strong in attack. No extra skills to give me a "boost", just Rank 6 Windmill and Rank E smash, the rest F ranked or novice.


and if anybody knows any boss or regular enemies(such as Black Golem, lycan, Ghost Armor, wisps, gargoyles).

I apologize for this long thread, but I can't find help anywhere else.

[Esharp]

Some people exaggerate on the difficulty of G1.
Ciar Basic's golem is pretty easy to smashmill to pieces. Fire Counter does work on it, but has more chances for mistakes being slower and all. The great thing is, you can use Nao or revive at the last statue.

The gem dungeons have your everyday monsters that you fight, except in higher quantity. Windmill immunity from finishing will be really helpful here.
The only problems may be the gargoyles and the fact you can't revive, but that's what bringing someone else is for. Quite a few people go to Another World on Saturdays, so it shouldn't be too hard to find a person willing to lend a helping hand. The golem appears in the Silver Gem dungeon and is pretty much the Ciar Basic one, so you don't have to worry about the rest of the gems if you have trouble with it solo. If you want a backup plan, try the Recruitment Camp of these forums.

Light Gargoyles can be smashmilled, but it's probably safer to go with ice slashing or ice barraging. Ice barrage Heavy Gargoyles.

Wisps actually tell you what they're going to do with exclamation marks, but you can just n+1 > defense or counter and read their actions. Most of the time, standing beside them and waiting out their skill (if used) will give you an opening when they try to use another skill. You may also windmill to force them to cast magic. Ice barraging them can also work.

For Lycanthropes, it's best to get a slow two hit weapon and 1+1+Windmill. Move away and read what it's going to do next. If it's a Smash, you can 1+1+Windmill again. If it's Defense, Windmill>Windmill. If it's Counter, Windmill and run back to see the skill again. If you're lazy, you can just stand on the spot and Windmill>Windmill until it dies. You may lure one from the others towards you with an ice bolt.

What you should work on is getting a nicely upgraded weapon. That's where most of your damage easily comes from. It can be done while ranking up your windmill too.

[kitaek27]

Don't skip G1. Just rustle your way through it.

The Golem isn't very difficult, especially because you can revive in the last statue.
If you're doing G1, that means you have service, right? If you have nao, its pretty good as well.

The regular orbs generally are standard level dungeons. I mean, if you can't do this, then you need more practice in the game.

The black orb does prove to be difficult. I even have trouble with this myself, so pick out some really trustworthy partners.

My real question is, why would you skip G1 and G2? For G3?
G3, in my opinion, is actually harder than G1 (with watered down peaca and baol dungeon). Why skip it if you're only going to be doing harder stuff?

By skipping it, it becomes even harder harder.
You might as well finish G1 and get that goddess enchant.

[Notakun]

I assume I have to bring a party to each of these dungeons for easier completion. forgive me for my complaints, I suppose the difficulty is just a misconception and it seem "God" difficult in my perspective.

So for now, my only concern is the Black Golem and getting a ciar basic pass(I hate ciar, I freaking hate it).

I don't have ice yet, but this "Ice barrage" you speak of is charging Ice with 5 bolts and shooting two and charging 1 and shooting that one charged bolt and repeat over and over. I Can't do that, I lack the Mana and Icebolt, but someone else can help me with gargoyles.

I have only firebolt, so I guess fire counter is my best bet. I can handle most tough monsters; Succubus, Ogres, and basically any monster that I can windmill at. Once I get WM to rank 5, it would be easier anyways.

but after One G1 quest in Barri, some party members can look strong, but can't even handle a gremlin. We died so much.

So, I can deal with Fiodh, Rabbie, and all those other monsters, Hellhound and wisps/swords, but not golems...

But it must be nice to have some ingame friends to help you out. I'm all alone.

IGN: Bokken
Server: Mari

My real question is, why would you skip G1 and G2? For G3?
G3, in my opinion, is actually harder than G1 (with watered down peaca and baol dungeon). Why skip it if you're only going to be doing harder stuff?

It was my previous intention to skip only G1, and go far 2 and 3. I can handle running from Town to Twon, NPC to NPC exchanging keywords and Books/Items. Mostly Barri, Goddess Dungeon, Black Golem(a little bit now) and Gargoyles/ghost armors intimidate me

[geegogo]

Money shouldn't be a problem because for G1 I used about 50k at most for preparations. I made around 120k from G1 by selling the Goddess Enchant and the Wing to TNN. In the long run, G1 helps you get prepared for G3 which is imo even harder.

[kitaek27]

Originally Posted by geegogo

Money shouldn't be a problem because for G1 I used about 50k at most for preparations. I made around 120k from G1 by selling the Goddess Enchant and the Wing to TNN. In the long run, G1 helps you get prepared for G3 which is imo even harder.

Why would you sell it when its such a good enchant DX

[Notakun]

The enchant is good, but the 10x repair thing turned me off. I could give G1 a go and I could make it far if I spend the majority of the day doing it. I have about 220k max money and I was going to save it for some Armor so I don't look like a botter anymore.

but o well, my mace and my crappy broad sword is all I need.


I don't care about RP quest, they're easy, as long as I can find some people. Its harder for me to find someone decent who at least knows about the quest and can spare the time to help you out. Mari isn't crowded, so I can't get 3 well trained people.

O well, nothing else to do but to go for it and do my best. Its gonna be a pain with the party members though, the rest seems easy... now.


**I doubt nobody added me**

[Mizahel]

Originally Posted by kitaek27

Why would you sell it when its such a good enchant DX

I finished my G1 at like 4 am and then went to sleep, forgetting about the enchant....it expired lol zzz

[Notakun]

Update: I've done that Barri quest in G1 concerning the Black Wizard. Me and two friends went in and we died a lot. I don't get that! Everytime I do a dungeon, any dungeon, I die less, but once i'm in a party, I always get caught by splash damage or a different aggro, because most of them never fought a gremlin before.

Well, I learned what they felt... and lost, when I did the wisp part. the wizard was easy as hell, but the wisps killed us. took us 1 hour and 30 minutes in real life time, but We won.

I ask him... "is all the G1 related quest this hard!? Do people die this much at a time" He said that it was true, but I thought it was just the people I partied with. They done G1 quest too, but they went too far from where I was at.

So, dungeons dont scare me, the evil and bitter players in this game; in Server Mari do... and that means you.

[Esharp]

Originally Posted by Notakun

I don't have ice yet, but this "Ice barrage" you speak of is charging Ice with 5 bolts and shooting two and charging 1 and shooting that one charged bolt and repeat over and over. I Can't do that, I lack the Mana and Icebolt, but someone else can help me with gargoyles.

You can do it with even as little as 10 MP. Your mana will roughly regenerate for 1 after every 2 charges, and the cost is practically negated when Eweca comes. Chances are the monster will be dead unless you attacked it with dangerously low mana without noticing. Fire isn't too dependable in these situations since the knockback may cause an unwanted spell to be casted. Ice is recommended for Gargoyle combat for low stun time and elemental advantage (against the Lights). If you think you can't kill one yourself and it's safe to team up on one, alternate casts and hits with a party member.

Originally Posted by Notakun

I ask him... "is all the G1 related quest this hard!? Do people die this much at a time" He said that it was true, but I thought it was just the people I partied with. They done G1 quest too, but they went too far from where I was at.

Maybe it is the people you party with, seeing as they've done G1 and can't fight gremlins without getting other people killed. It's very easy to avoid splash damage, and it's somewhat your responsibility to prevent what's after you from splashing your party members.
Would you happen to have been randomly teaming up on the gremlins and wisps? Randomly hitting things is too unpredictable to be considered safe.
It's too bad this has happened more than once for you. I'd help, but I'm on Ruairi.

Originally Posted by Notakun

So, dungeons dont scare me, the evil and bitter players in this game; in Server Mari do... and that means you.

Not too sure what that means.